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CAMPUS NEWS Q&A CHANCELLOR’S EXIT INTERVIEW After a nearly decade-long career as RSCCD Chancellor Raul Rodriguez leaves the district behind with a mix of controversies, successes and no regrets. Through it all, Rodriguez says he has developed a thick skin and a determined mindset to overcome prejudicial barriers and rise to the highest levels of academia. / Jason Solares What do you think have been your accomplishments? I’m very proud of our track record on hiring diverse faculty. I’m happy to say that our percentage of Latino and other minorities. This year looks promising. It’s important to have that [diversity] given our demographics with a number of Latino and Asian students. Students need to see their role models that are like themselves. We prominently have white faculty, its important to change the faculty, that’s one thing that is important to me. With accomplishments comes failure. Is there anything you were disappointed in or would like to take back? Yeah, I’m sure. We all make mistakes. I got involved with politics with another district [Coast Community College District]. When they got rid of their Chancellor who was African-American. I wrote him a message because I was so ticked off that they were going to fire after only three years. It’s unfortunate that it became public because it probably embarrassed the district but in the end I stand behind what I said. Do you think either party has benefited from it? We helped a little bit, but the trouble with any reform effort is that you’re facing many obstacles. We can model certain behaviors for them, specific ways for approaching issues in the classroom. But they have a different mentality. Nikki Nelsen / el Don How did you handle the pressure/backlash from the Rancho-Baha Partnership (Saudi Arabia deal)? I’m not saying I’m immune to criticism, but I’ve learned how to handle it, so I try not to internalize it too much. I try to put out the rationale. That’s why our board was okay with it they understood we’re trying to help, we’re educators. This is what we do. Rather than exclude people, we want to include people. If you could do it over, is there anything that you would do differently or take back? You always wish you can go back with hindsight and do things bet- ter. I’ve had a difficult relationship with the union, and they’ve been very critical on me. I believe part of it, I’m not saying all of it, but part of it is racist. I wish I would’ve had better relations with some of the faculty leadership. I learned a long time ago that if you’re going to be a president or chancellor who’s going to push for change, it’s not a popularity contest With your name comes controversy. What do you want to say to the people who put the controversy behind your name? If you look at the stuff that’s written about me, it’s all opinion. There are little facts but they try to twist it a certain way and put a pin on it, but it’s not accurate. They try to pin me as a racist, as a misogynist because of the Saudi deal. The people that know me and work with me every single day know that that’s not the case. el Don Santa Ana College · June 2019 5