Aptavani-9
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Questioner: What kind of craftiness is it? Can you
please explain this chaturai?
Dadashri: There is craftiness and cleverness (chaturai)
in deceit. With whomever there is interaction of deceit; one will
win over the other person through craftiness and cleverness. He
will win over everyone through chaturai; only the Gnani will not
fall under this spell. He will be able to get other people under
his control. He employs craftiness with everyone; he knows how
to do all that.
Questioner: What should an individual who is being
crafty do in order to become free from it?
Dadashri: How will he know this? He will not be able to
know this at all. One cannot escape from his own craftiness.
You should not become a victim of that craftiness and cleverness
(chaturai).
Questioner: Does that mean it is the prakruti (the non-
Self complex) that practices craftiness and cleverness?
Dadashri: The other person’s prakruti does craftiness
and cleverness because of kapat because he wants to engage
his craft of kapat to trap others. But you have to be cautious
if you do not want to be influenced by his kapat.
Questioner: How?
Dadashri: To begin with you should know how to listen
keeping in mind whether something is beneficial or harmful to
you. Ordinarily people accept sweet words that are harmful to
them and reject bitter one that are for their own benefit.
Questioner: But whether the other person is telling me
for my benefit or my detriment…
Dadashri: It is more than enough if you understand just
this much. If you are at this level, it is more than enough.
Questioner: But after all, benefits or harm is applicable