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they are so they will remain there forever.
Questioner: But the real happiness is not there, is it?
Dadashri: It is not, is it? And yet the whole world
remains in garavata.
Questioner: So how can this garavata go away for
human beings?
Dadashri: It will go away if they see happiness elsewhere.
Questioner: Will it go away when they see happiness of
another kind, which is better?
Dadashri: Yes, then one can be freed. Happiness of
another kind will become established in his conviction (pratiti).
He will become convinced about the happiness, which he has
never seen before; ‘It is exactly what Dada says’, then it will go
away.
Questioner: Do our mahatmas have this garavata?
Dadashri: Yes, and they are able to understand that they
are possessed by garavata but they still like it.
Questioner: What is the solution for not wanting to stay
in the garavata and to come out of it?
Dadashri: The solution is to decide in your mind,
‘whether I have this or that, it does not make any difference to
me. They are both the same.’ Then there is a solution. Equal –
samaan! They are both equal in your eyes!
Questioner: So the pleasure one gets from garavata…
Dadashri: He considers the value of this and the value of
that to be equal; he makes them both equal.
Questioner: But what two values?
Dadashri: The value of this garavata and the value of
other things like food and drink that is available. It (garavata)