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lazy (pramaadi), I need to do something higher’. Whereas the
one in garavata is not even aware or he does not even think
‘I am in garavata’. The whole world is in garavata. Up until
now everything is considered garavata. The water buffalo will
not get up.
Questioner: The sun will eventually set and the water
buffalo will have to come out. But do circumstances not change
in this way in order for human beings to come out of their
garavata?
Dadashri: No, it likes this. Even when the buffalo’s
owner feeds her good food, she will say, ‘No, I don’t want to
do anything with him’ but when she gets very hungry, she will not
perceive pleasure sitting in the ditch. She will get up if the hunger
pangs hurt her. She will get up if she is very hungry or if the
temperature outside cools down and it is no longer comfortable
to remain in the ditch.
Questioner: But there must be a key to getting out of
garavata?
Dadashri: When the temperature cools down she will
automatically come out.
Questioner: But do such circumstances arise in the life of
these human beings in garavata?
Dadashri: No, no. Right now they are all in garavata.
Are they likely to go from Pedar Road (luxurious area of
Mumbai) to Santa Cruz (working class neighborhood)? They
will only go when they become bankrupt. They will go when
they have no money, when they have nothing or when they get
evicted.
Questioner: So people cannot get out of garavata at
all?
Dadashri: Garavata! O ho ho! But are they even
prepared to come out of garavata? No, they are happy where