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of their perception (drashti); it is not exactly chetan. That chetan
is referred to as nischetan chetan (energized self; mechanical
chetan). So it is a discharging thing. When it is discharging, it is
nischetan chetan. All that humans do; walking, moving about,
and everything else, is all nischetan chetan. It is only because
of the presence of the Atma, that this entire machine is running.
If the Atma were not present, then this machine would not work
at all; it would stop.
What would happen if you closed your mouth and kept
your nose pinched? The one who resides within, will empty the
entire room and leave. How can you call that chetan? That is
the mechanical chetan. If the world had ever come to know the
real chetan, then today, it would have been blessed! It is not
even in a state, that it would know it. This mechanical chetan
is said to be in motion (sachar; movable), and the real chetan
is said to be still (achar; immovable); therefore the world is
sacharachar (movable-immovable).
There is indeed chetan in the body. But it is an effective
chetan. What kind of chetan is it? It is a charged chetan
(charged soul). Now, if it is a charged chetan, then you cannot
call it the original chetan (muda chetan- main Soul) at all! Is
there a mistake here or not? Do you realize that it has been
misconceived up until this time? All the beliefs were filled with
errors. Should there not be exactness to it?
Questioner: So, is it the mechanical chetan that is
throughout the body?
Dadashri: Yes, the mechanical chetan.
Questioner: So then, where is the real chetan?
Dadashri: The real chetan is all throughout the body!
And the mechanical chetan is just the outer layer.
In truth, the Atma which people consider as Atma, is in