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all actuality, the mechanical atma. ‘We’ are not giving you the
mechanical atma. ‘We’ are giving you the still (achad) Atma.
In the Kramic marg (Traditional step-by-step path of
spiritual progress; Self-realization), the mechanical atma itself, is
believed to be the real Atma, and the mechanical chetan is
considered to be the Atma itself. When the ego (ahamkar)
becomes pure (shuddha), meaning that there is no longer any
room for anger (krodh), pride (maan), deceit (maya), greed
(lobh); when the ego becomes pure in that way; completely
pure, that is when the pure Soul (Shuddhatma) and the pure
ego (shuddha ahamkar), become one. So this is how it is in the
Kramic marg!
Whereas, this is Akram Vignan (the spiritual science of
the step-less path to Self-realization)! Here, the Gnani Purush
places the pure Soul directly into one’s hands, the still (achad)
Atma itself, it would not be mechanical even by name. That is
the kind of untainted and pure (nirlep) Atma he gives you!
Questioner: Is the state of consciousness (sabhaan
avastha) that we have within us; which shows us the good and
the bad, what we would call chetan?
Dadashri: No. That is all nischetan chetan (energized
self); it is not the soul (chetan) at all. That is why I am telling
you that to know chetan, is an extremely, extremely difficult
task. All along, what people have known, is nischetan chetan.
If you wanted to say it in English, then it would be mechanical
chetan. Anything which has: anger-pride-deceit-greed (krodh-
maan-maya-lobh); attachment-abhorrence (raag-dwesh), mind-
intellect-chit-ego (mun-buddhi-chit-ahamkar), is all mechanical
chetan.
If the Atma were to do anger-pride-deceit-greed (krodh-
maan-maya-lobh), speak, or do anything, then its habit of doing
all that, would never go away. What people believe in, is the
mechanical atma. The mechanical atma, speaks, walks and