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Aptavani-5 13 ignorance. There are two kinds of freedom: First is the freedom from ignorance (agnan mukti). That means the Self comes into its dharma. The second is absolute freedom from the physical body (dehamukti), the attainment of siddhagati (the abode of all liberated souls). It is possible to become ekavtari; i.e. attain moksha in just one more life. What is the benefit of attaining freedom from ignorance of the Self? One attains a state where he is not affected by any worldly suffering. What are human beings looking for? Questioner: Freedom from pain and suffering. Dadashri: The Self is by nature blissful and when one is not affected by pain (dukh), what else remains? Questioner: Surely there must be some keys to know the Self? Dadashri: There are no such keys. You simply have to go to a Gnani Purush and tell him, ‘Sir, I have no sense. I am a fool. I have wandered for countless lives but I have not learnt or known even a fraction about the Self. Therefore, please grace me; do at least this much for me.’ That is all you have to do. The Gnani Purush has only come here to give the gift of liberation. And then people complain about what will become of the worldly life interactions (vyavahar). After knowing the Self everything that remains is the vyavahar. The Gnani Purush also gives you knowledge of the worldly life interaction. He gives you the Five Agnas (five cardinal principles given in the Gnan Vidhi by which the state of the Self is preserved and progress towards final liberation is enhanced). The Gnani tells you, ‘These are my Five Agnas. Follow my Agnas and your