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Lugano Joseph Kosuth, ‘The Paradox of Content # 3’ [yellow], 2009 neon giallo, montato direttamente su muro / yellow neon, mounted directly on the wall, 181 x 184 cm conceptual operations over time has not been not subject to fads, as Kosuth himself unveils to LUCE in this exclusive interview. In your opinion, what is conceptual art in this new millennium? Well, in all honesty, I would have to say one word: “art”. Because a majority of the art we see now in the Biennales, in the galleries and museums, are in most part a result of the changed notion of art we instigated in the 1960’s. The presumption of art as being painting and sculpture is gone. What is the legacy of the Art & Language group in this digital era? It is very mixed. The early group, comprised of Terry Atkinson, Michael Baldwin, David Bainbridge and Harold Hurrell, participated in those changes I refer to in the first question. But in the 1980’s a revisionist group without Terry Atkinson, without Bainbridge, without Hurrell, and without me, returned to the painting that the market was clamouring for along with everyone one else. This group, comprised of Michael Baldwin and Mel Ramsden with new additions, did these unfortunate works under the name of Art & Language even though there was an agreement to stop using this name. It is a bit like the Beatles coming back with only George Harrison and Ringo Starr but still calling themselves The Beatles. Well, most people wouldn’t fall for it. Today, what are your “investigations” and “propositions” of art as an idea, that Joseph Kosuth, ‘Mondrian’s Work XIV’, 2015 serigrafia su vetro, neon montato direttamente su muro / silkscreen on glass, mounted directly on the wall, 200 x 123.7 cm intend to highlight the complexity of the relationship between language and art? Well, easy as a question but long and complicated as an answer, due to the fact I am a rather productive artist and this question asks me to go through a long list of works since the 1960's. That’s at least an article or a book, not an interview question. Today, instead of ‘One and Three Chairs’, 1965, what would you use to investigate the theoretical dimension of art’s nature, rather than the creation of artworks? That would be better, however, answered in an artwork rather than an interview question! What do your neon installation tautologies mean (ex: ‘Five Words in Orange Neon’, 1965)? Do they still have a meaning today? They now contain their original meaning along with the art historical gloss that has been unavoidably added. What was the latest installation that has caused a state of emotional tension that has disrupted your analytical vision of artistic work? There is no reason, or do I think capacity, for us to separate emotional and analytical in the case of art. We must keep in mind, however, how “emotional” does not add to clarity but it is a form of information. How was your relationship, exchange and collaboration with Lia Rumma born? I have the honour of being the first show in her gallery, in 1971 I believe. It has been a great and productive relationship and she remains a close friend. How was your exhibition project with Michela Negrini, at [dip] contemporary art in Lugano, conceived? It began with an invitation from Michela. And we met several times and discussed what would be good, and appropriate, at this time in Lugano. We then chose a group of works that cover as a sketch my recent practice that had not been seen in Lugano. I think it is a little gem of a show. Do you think art still make sense today? Why? It makes sense more than ever. In a world in which market meaning has eclipsed actually rooted human meaning, the need for art has never been greater. The survival of our culture depends on it. How would you explain to a hypothetical grandchild what is conceptual art? It is what we call art. On which work are you currently working on? As I said above, I’m very productive. I have 11 projects in 9 countries. Those are the major projects and, as well, I have many smaller ones to work on between those! Nelle foto, vedute dell'esposizione ‘Notations for Thinking a selection’ / Photos: exhibition views of ‘Notations for Thinking a selection’ [dip] contemporary art, Lugano. LIGHT ART / LUCE 323 43