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together. And problem B is the fact that I have to manage the difference with you, and you with me, so every time I work with someone I always have two problems: the thing we’re trying to do together, and managing our differences. MM. Let’s talk about resistance. What can we do when we find resistance in our time or in the person we are working with? KJ. There are a number of things we need to do. The first is to take a step back and take a deep breath because if we stay emotional about it we stop thinking clearly. I have many colleagues who think differently to me and if I come in after being very emotional about it then we just get conflict, so the first thing is to step back and remove the emotion from the situation. The second thing is to think about what it is, what’s that problem that the two of us are actually trying to solve together, because that’s really more important. 23 It’s more important that we solve this than whether I agree with the other person. So, what does this shared problem need from me and what does it need from the other person? And how can I see that what they’re saying, their resistance to me, has value for this thing we’re trying to do? It’s very rare really that people resist you and have no sense about it. It’s usually not nonsense. There’s usually some value in that resistance, there’s a good reason. It’s kind of like failure again, every time someone pushes back at me. If I can take the emotion out and think ‘wait a minute, it may be tiny but there’s something in that, that I can learn from, from what they’re saying, from their resistance’, it will help me move forward. So, a professional example, from me: because I’m a professor we hav