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Q: What were they? A: There were strategies we had worked on within OMNI, for example, how to use publicity—which is essential to these social struggles—and some visualization techniques involving performative and poetic experiences. We used all the elements people used in their social environment to defend themselves, promote their rhetoric, simply subvert their meaning to an aesthetic projection and denomination. All this was documented. From a legal point of view, we documented all the answers we offered, and the answers the authorities offered us. In the end, we had an expository space with documents, photos of the house, drawings by our children, and even of how we coexisted in that space. It would be like the final phase of a process, but what interests me is more procedural, where the forces are intervening. Q: Does that process of occupying the house have a title? A: Yes. “La casa que no existía” [The House That Did Not Exist]. It starts to exist when we began to work on it and we receive a water service contract, an electric service contract. “La casa que no existía” is a poem narrated in real time, by real protagonists defending from within a same reality. Q: How long have you been doing this? A: More or less since 2011. Necessary Art also creates artistic resources and techniques that solve specific problems. Q: What do you mean by that? A: For example, we offered the Damas de Blanco (Ladies in White) a self- representation and self-expression workshop involving psycho physical exercises and theatrical techniques. Their scene is quite powerful: they dress all in white, carry Gladioli, are women, and are beaten. It is like a Via Crucis, an image that impacts public space. Yet, upon looking at this carefully, we realized that we were before a performative condition and theatrical props. Q: Who see it that way? A: My wife Iris and I. When we worked with them, we tried to help them observe themselves, to achieve greater selfrepresentation, and we began to polish their image via a number of psycho physical exercises and theatrical techniques. Q: But, do they think of their activism as performance? A: No, but Necessary Art can help them incorporate techniques for their activism. The poetic is at the core of my experience. I am a poet, a user of poetry. I have used the poetic system in a way that is entirely against the grain of Lezama Lima’s view of it. He did not expect any application value to poetry, but was looking for “a broadening of it that might stretch the poetic image all the way to the horizon.” For Lezama Lima, the protest in 1930, death of Trejo, and image of Mella tearing down Zayas’ statue in front of the Presidential Palace marked the beginning of a history of “infinite possibilities” in the republican era. 130