Campus Review Vol 29. Issue 8 August 2019 | Page 15

policy & reform campusreview.com.au It was obviously an option for me, and it’s something I did end up doing, but my concern is that if we’re not talking about university with kids who are doing well, then we’re certainly not talking about university to young people in care who, had they been born into a middle-class family, would probably go to university. Do you think some of the ideas behind this kind of attitude is that, unless you get a foster kid earning a wage as soon as possible, they’ll become a taxpayer burden? Well, I think that because there’s so little support for kids coming out of care, there is a very practical need for them as soon as they turn 18 to start earning an income. In fact, we’re not very good at tracking post-school outcomes for kids in care, so I’m not sure anybody actually spends enough time thinking about what a tax burden kids coming out of care end up being. What kind of support is currently being offered by universities and the government to help care leavers access university? Anastasia Glushko at her graduation from Oxford University. Photo: Supplied insofar as we expect very little in terms of their outcomes. We don’t expect them to go to university. We don’t even talk to them about going to university. While they’re young teenagers, they have the same levels of aspiration for university as the majority of the population – but something happens between the ages of 15 and 18 where it just doesn’t translate into actual enrolment. There’s a lot of work to do from a lot of angles. Going back to that cultural issue, you phrased this in an article you wrote for The Guardian as “the bigotry of low expectations”. For sure. As a trivial example, I did very well in my HSC, which was some years ago now, but I was in the top 3 per cent of my state and no-one spoke to me about university outside of my school. None of my social workers. Nobody mentioned that it might be an option. Very little. On the federal government side, there is a one-off payment, which is about $1500. It’s not much, but it would cover the bond for particularly regional universities. Unfortunately most kids in care – over 60 per cent – don’t even know this payment exists. It’s very difficult to access. By the way, that payment is available to all kids irrespective of whether they access higher education or not, so there’s nothing really at all explicitly available to support the cost associated with going to uni. Most Australian universities are likewise guilty of not providing much support to kids in care. That’s slowly, slowly changing, and that’s part of what I’ve been working on. The reality is that universities provide most of the support that young people coming out of care need, it’s just not explicitly available to this group. For example, every university offers support with housing and bursaries for low-income students, but if you’ve come out of care, you don’t realise that you’re eligible for any of that. I didn’t realise until I was 28 that I was low-SES when I was doing my undergrad. No-one told me. Part of the idea is to encourage universities to repackage the things that they currently offer to disadvantaged students and make them explicitly available to kids coming out of care. There is a small handful of universities that do that, and do a lot more than that, but relative to what equivalent countries are doing, like the UK and the US, it’s very modest. I would like to get to a point where we’re supporting young people coming out of care, where we are with Indigenous young people now, where every university has a comprehensive system of support that’s well-resourced and well-recognised as something that is absolutely essential in achieving equity diversity in that university. There is an overlap there as well, in that a high proportion of Indigenous children have experienced foster care. Yes. Depending on which state you’re in, about 30–35 per cent of the care population are Indigenous. You undertook a Churchill Fellowship looking into how Australia compares to the rest of the world when it comes to improving access to higher education. What did you find? The depressing part is that Australia is light years behind most of the Western world when it comes to supporting young people coming out of care, and even young people in care. Interestingly, our care population per capita is double the size of that of the UK and the US, and yet we have a fraction of the support available to those young people. In both the UK and the US in particular, but also most European countries, the welfare of young people coming out of care is a huge social priority now. Similarly, in the US, it’s a huge national issue, and there’s a wealth of resources available across different sectors to support young people going into university Most Australian universities are guilty of not providing much support to kids in care, but that’s slowly changing. and doing more with their lives beyond low-skilled work. Especially when compared to the US, we actually have a much more generous 13