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his worldly interaction is within acceptable norms or not.
Questioner: But how can one recognize his own
obstinacy?
Dadashri: He will know if he has our Gnan. He will not
otherwise and even if he knows, he would cover it up and
continue to remain obstinate. One can know because of the
power of our Gnan.
Questioner: What is it to cover up obstinacy?
Dadashri: Covering up the obstinacy is double obstinacy.
Questioner: Then there is no scope of getting rid of the
original obstinacy, is there?
Dadashri: On the contrary, it increases.
Questioner: But our main aim is to get rid of obstinacy
from its very roots, is it not? What should we do there?
Dadashri: You will not be able to do it yourself if you try.
You should ask me how it is and I will tell you ‘Brother, get rid
of this obstinacy.’
Questioner: There is obstinacy to begin with and then he
covers it up, that is double the obstinacy. Then that obstinacy
will not allow him to open up and ask. What should he do there?
Dadashri: But someone like me will ask, ‘Where are you
going? Which ‘town’ do you have to go to (What is your
spiritual destination)?’ Most people are such that if you tell them
as it is; they will take the opposite way. In spite of you speaking
candidly to them and they will take the obstinate path.
Therefore, I have to twist things around before I say anything to
them. Their spiritual state is still weak, is it not? I have to sweet-
talk them in order to get the work done. We have to explain
things to little children.
Questioner: They all look like children and you have to