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Aptavani-9 13 pride, deceit and greed, leave and you become straight, then you will attain moksha. Obstinacy during the early years of Ambalal Patel (Dadashri’s relative self) Back in the old days, there was a saying: “Duniya diwani kahevashe re, bhoondi bhito ma bhatkashe. paap ey enu jyare pragat thashe, tyare bhuva-jati gher jashe” Meaning when one’s demerit karmas come into fruition, he will resort to all kinds of solutions; he will seek help of the exorcists, voodooist, black magicians etc. So a person looks for an exorcist, a saint, or others for help when his demerit karma expresses its effect. Some poet has sung something like that. Questioner: Dada, when did you read this pad (poetic hymn)? Dadashri: It is about fifty-five years old; it is not very old. It is not a two or five thousand years old saying. Questioner: But how can you remember it all? Dadashri: ‘We’ do not remember anything. ‘We’ do not even remember whether today is Monday or Tuesday! Questioner: Then where did all this come from, Dada? Dadashri: ‘We’ can see it all. If ‘we’ turn one way, ‘we’ can immediately see everything and therefore ‘we’ speak. If ‘we’ see anything beneficial, then ‘we’ will say it. Why would ‘we’ try to commit anything to memory? ‘We’ continue to see all the way back to when I was young. ‘We’ can see all the phases…‘it was like this…it was like that… ‘we’ used to enter the classroom only after the school bell rang; ‘we’ can see all