Aptavani-9 501
seeing has no meaning after becoming absorbed. It is meaningless.
Questioner: Ah ha! He becomes tanmayakar and then he tries to‘ see’!!
Dadashri: Yes, that is why it is all meaningless!
Questioner: So then what kind of separation do we have to maintain in order to‘ see’?
Dadashri: After doing purusharth! If on the basis of vyavasthit, you happen to become absorbed with it, then do not let it happen and You remain as the Self; keep that separate, and‘ see’ it separate. That verily is the purusharth! Now such‘ seeing and knowing( jovoo and janvoo),’ does not( generally) remain, does it?
The mahatmas say that they‘ see and know’ only. They all say that they remain in the state of‘ seeing and knowing’. They say‘ all we have to do is see and know.’ I tell them,‘ That is very good!?!’ But how are they to‘ see and know’? Even when they make this claim, I simply let go. I recognize and understand that the first standard in school is always thus.
Questioner: But the karmas continue to unfold twenty four hours a day, do they not?
Dadashri: Yes, karmas continue to unfold all day. Then along with it, there is also the state of being absorbed( tanmayakar). But along with that the purusharth of keeping the two separate is also at work. However, that purusharth is weak in many places. Most of the time one remains in the state of being absorbed( tanmayakar). The whole day long, everything passes by in this manner without one realizing it. Then he claims,‘ I saw and knew’. Arey! What did you‘ see and know’ What do you consider‘ seeing and knowing’? Did you see the ghosts?
What is to be‘ seen’? If vyavasthit is engaging and dragging‘ you’ in the process of becoming absorbed