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attaining Gnan. It will not increase. It will go down until it ends
completely.
Questioner: And one sees the ‘I-ness’ when the karma
unfolds, does he not?
Dadashri: Yes. That is why ‘we’ have said that the
experience of the Self will increase as the karmas unfold and the
ego will go down. This is how everything becomes regular. The
experience as the Self (anubhav) then continues to increase.
Specific details of ‘seeing and knowing’
Questioner: So then we do not have to worry about
getting rid of the ego. It will happen automatically in an orderly
manner as the karmas unfold (udaya) and all we have to do is
simply ‘see’ it.
Dadashri: No. You still have to do purusharth. Do not
take the approach, ‘I do not have to do anything’. In fact, the
real purusharth remains to be done from this moment onwards.
Questioner: But what other purusharth is there besides
just ‘being the seer (jonaro)’?
Dadashri: You have to ‘see continuously’ but such
‘seeing’ does not occur. Such continuous ‘seeing’ is not easy.
You have to do purusharth. If You employ purusharth, then
You will be able to ‘see’.
Questioner: So what kind of purusharth is to be done?
Dadashri: Only the purusharth to ‘see’ what is ‘burning’
within and how is it burning.
Questioner: That is the ‘seeing’ is it not?
Dadashri: But this ‘seeing’ (jovanoo) it is not easy. Man
cannot ‘see’; he is not able to ‘see’. If he does purusharth then
he will be able to ‘see’. If one becomes the Self (the Purush)
and does the purusharth of not becoming absorbed
(tanmayakar), then only the ‘seeing’ is possible. Otherwise