Aptavani-9
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Dadashri: There is some awareness in the situation with
the bed but awareness of the Self is gone away substantially, is
it not? The separation of the body from the bed is in his
awareness (khyal).
Questioner: That happens when I make him take a note
of the separation, then the one within will agree ‘Yes, both are
separate.’
Dadashri: He will believe when you give him the proof
(purava).
Questioner: So in the same token do we need to give
proof in order to understand and maintain the exact awareness,
‘All the non-Self complex phases are not mine and I am
Shuddhatma’?
Dadashri: Proof, evidence (purava) is the main thing.
Questioner: What is the proof or evidences that help to
understand this from within?
Dadashri: That which takes numerous evidences to get
the work done is ‘not mine’. Even when only three things get
together in order to get the work done; it is ‘not mine’. Even if
you do not cut a mango with a knife but bite into it with your
teeth, because everything had to come together in order for the
eating to take place, means it is ‘not mine’. You will have to
understand at the subtle level, will you not? Do you think you
can make do with understanding at the gross level?
Questioner: The main thing is at the subtlest
(sookshmatam) level.
Dadashri: Yes, the main thing is subtlest (at the level of
sookshmatam) and what will happen if you dissect it at the
gross level (at the sthool level)?
Questioner: But this is something new that you just told
us.