Aptavani-9
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Dadashri: Foolishness prevails on the foundation of
deceit. When deceit (kapat) leaves foolishness will not remain
either.
Questioner: What is the nature of that deceit (kapat)?
What kind of deceit is that?
Dadashri: It is deceit of all kinds! Deceit means to keep
everything hidden from the Self, to veil the Self. All kinds of
deceit of taking advantage of someone, to keep one’s things
secret from others; that is also deceit!
Questioner: So what is one trying to hide all this from?
Dadashri: One employs deceit to hide things about him
or his business from others. If he is talking in confidence with a
person, and someone enters the room, would he not stop
talking?
Questioner: Yes, he would.
Dadashri: What can be the reason for that?
Questioner: Is that considered deceit?
Dadashri: Then what else can you call it?
Questioner: So where is guilelessness in this?
Dadashri: Wherever there is kapat (deceit), there is
bound to be bhodpan (guilelessness) also on the other side.
Kapat would not arise if one does not have this much
foolishness. Deceit is a sign of foolishness. Guilelessness exists
where deceit exists. And where there is guilelessness, you
should take it for granted that deceit is there.
Questioner: You said that our track should not change.
Our track has not changed, so what should be our goal of this
track?
Dadashri: The goal of moksha; liberation, salvation!
What other goal is there? That is the main line!