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Aptavani-9
Dadashri: It is very difficult.
Questioner: How can we know the nature of this deceit?
Dadashri: To pull others into your own opinion and take
them into your confidence for your worldly gains is kapat
(deceit). A person who is doing this would not even know that
he is doing anything wrong. He simply is not aware of it.
Questioner: What is included in the worldly gain? Is it
mainly everything other than the goal of salvation (moksha)?
Dadashri: There is definitely a goal of liberation after this
Gnan (knowledge of the Self). The problem is with the deeply
ingrained old habits (latta); they will not leave once they
become established. They cast a veil over the self and thus make
it difficult for the owner to know that they (the kashaya of
deceit) indeed exists within. The owner has no clue.
The owner is also not aware of the other kashaya of
greed (lobh) either. A greedy person will never know, ‘I am
greedy.’ Only the kashayas of pride (maan) and anger
(krodha) are guileless (bhoda), so one can easily know their
existence. One cannot identify maya - illusion that veils the Self;
this verily is deceit (kapat). He cannot know of greed either.
Questioner: So this deceit (kapat) is mainly for the
worldly benefits…
Dadashri: Deceit (kapat) is very tough; it is the greatest
nuisance. Now how can it leave by itself? It will leave if one
stops seeking advantage in worldly situations. Such a person is
liberated indeed, is he not?
Questioner: That verily is what we call awareness
(jagruti), do we not?
Dadashri: That is not jagruti; I just showed you the way
out of deceit (kapat).
Questioner: Awareness is to have an inner demarcation