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408 Aptavani-9 Questioner: How do these passions (kashayas) overcome us? Dadashri: They render you unconscious in regards to awareness of Gnan. A person will not have any awareness at that time! Questioner: How can we tell when the kashayas have arisen? What are the signs? Dadashri: Will you not know when the ego has been hurt? Deceit (kapat) is the main culprit that does not allow you to be aware. This deceit means total darkness; complete absence of awareness. In other forms of kashayas namely greed, pride and anger, there would be some light; some awareness. Questioner: Please explain all these in detail. This deceit, kashaya, ego… Dadashri: These are all the obstacles in the path of liberation. Questioner: How does deceit operate and create a puzzle in this? Dadashri: Deceit (kapat), makes everything pleasant and acceptable, and thus makes one wander (lose spiritual goal) here, there and everywhere. Questioner: Where again is the role of deceit in all these wanderings? Dadashri: Anger, pride, greed create fewer obstructions. Deceit will create lot more obstructions. Deceit (kapat) does not let one remain in the normality of worldly interaction; it takes one below the level of what is normal, it is lower than the state of worldly self (sansari). Persons without kapat are sarad; they are straight and simple-hearted. Deceitful prakruti creates major problems.