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‘guru’ – and there is no other word for this worldly interaction
vyavahar, then he should say, ‘Yes, I am his guru’, but from
within he should know that he is laghu.
Therefore everyone in the relative world should try to
maintain a state of being small to the smallest. One should not
try to be guru - superior.
‘Exactness’ through laghutam
Questioner: You say, ‘I am the most laghutam of atma.
There is no superior over me. I am absolutely independent.’
How can others not remain free in this way? Why is it necessary
to follow the agna of a guru?
Dadashri: Everyone is independent indeed! What is the
need to abide by a guru’s instructions (agna)? One has to
remain in the agna of the one within, but the kashayas of anger-
pride-deceit-greed within continue to beat him up incessantly.
So who can become free and independent? The one whose
anger-pride-deceit-greed is gone, can be free. Otherwise he
cannot be, can he?
And the disciple will follow the guru’s agnas if they are
acceptable or he will not if they are not. These Agnas (the five
Agnas) are not mine. They are one’s ‘own’. I never scold
anyone. I have never scolded anyone to this day. I have told
everyone that I am his or her disciple. By the relative viewpoint
I am everyone’s disciple; I am laghutam and by real viewpoint
I am gurutam. Therefore, from the viewpoint of worldly
interaction (vyavaharik), there is no one inferior to me;
everyone is superior to me. And through the real viewpoint, the
viewpoint of the Lord, there is no one superior to me. That is
what I am saying. Do you understand? So is everyone not my
superior? I am the disciple of everyone.
Questioner: But they come here to you to attain (gnan)
from you. How can a guru come to you?