Aptavani-9
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Questioner: And if he has done something good, he will
tell ten other people, ‘I did this and I did that’. What should be
done if that happens?
Dadashri: Yes, but it will only arise if he tells others about
his deeds. Garvaras is that which arises when he tells others.
He gets enjoyment from that. And if the other person is asleep,
he will not be satisfied until he wakes him up and tells him!
Questioner: But does he not get encouragement when
that happens?
Dadashri: He gets encouragement but what increases as
a result? Is the soul likely to increase? It is the ego that
increases.
Questioner: As the ego continues to get encouragement
does the soul not lose by that much?
Dadashri: That does happen.
Questioner: Now when it is in the form of a discharge
and one continues to ‘see’ it as a discharge, without interruption;
what is the process of that ‘seeing’?
Dadashri: When you watch a movie, what is being used
in the process? Your sthool (external) eyes and your sookshma
(subtle) eyes, both are used. When it is needed, these external
eyes are used for external things and the inner eye is used for
subtle understanding of internal things. So keep ‘seeing’ what ‘it’
(the pudgal-the relative self) is doing, that is all! Know what it
is doing.
Keep seeing all the garvaras the relative-self tastes, and
later, admonish him a little by saying, ‘Chandulal, why do you
still taste this? Why don’t you smarten up a little bit?’ That is all.
Questioner: Sometimes I tell him, ‘Be quiet and sit down
you bundle of nonsense!’
Dadashri: Yes, he will straighten out if you call him a