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four times and when he became a guru, it increased forty times.’ Now the only thing of importance is how one can come down to the level of zero.
Dadashri: Now after attaining Gnan, where is your purusharth( independent spiritual endeavor) of day and night taking you? This purusharth is taking you towards zero. What was the case before? It used to increase three fold, and it was headed in the direction of growth. Now You are headed towards its dissolution. So it is futile to look for solutions here. Everything here is very systematic. You are headed towards the‘ zero state’, and that state will come for sure.
After Self-realization …
After attaining Gnan, you have no ego at all. What is the definition of ego? To decide and believe,‘ I am Chandulal’ is ego( ahamkar). Now you have doubt over the knowledge of‘ I am Chandulal’. So now that you are not Chandulal, but the pure Soul( Shuddhatma), you do not have ego.‘ You’ are egoless.
ego?
Questioner: So you consider‘ I am Chandulal’ as the
Dadashri: Yes, that is called ego( ahamkar).
Questioner: That ego part is gone, but does our abhimaan still remain?
Dadashri: Yes, but there is no problem with abhimaan. It is a discharge( nikali). You do not have ego left at all. There is no problem with abhimaan. Maan and abhimaan are a discharge. Then beyond this there is garva( doer-ship) and other things. The main ego is gone but the effect of that ego remains, does it not? The root cause is gone but the branches still remain, however they will eventually dry up.
Questioner: So is abhimaan the result of the old ego?