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Aptavani-9
Dadashri: I can see the ego in the same way too. Once
you see that perspective of the body, then you will see that of
the ego too. The ego will melt but these are ‘body parts’ and
they are dependent upon the body.
Questioner: What do you mean by ‘body parts’?
Dadashri: If a person has a small nose, his ego is small
too and if his nose is big, his ego is big. Therefore, however it
is with the body, it is the same with the ego.
‘Hum’ (‘I-ness’ with ego) is an obstacle on
the path to moksha
Questioner: What is the difference between ahamkar
and ego?
Dadashri: They are the same thing.
Questioner: When one says, ‘Hum’, is that also an ego
(ahamkar)?
Dadashri: ‘Hum’ is different and ego is different.
Generally it is considered that wife and children are major
obstacles in attaining liberation. Are these the only things that
hinder liberation? There are many other things that hinder one’s
liberation. How do the poor wife and children hinder him? They
sleep in their own beds so how are they a hindrance to you?
Do they get inside your stomach and go to sleep? If they did
then you can consider them a hindrance, but is that what they
do? Each sleeps in his or her own bed, so where is the
problem for you?
But this ‘hum’ ego gets into your stomach and hinders by
saying, ‘hum, hum, hum?’ This ‘I am something, I am
something,’ does not go away, it will go wherever one goes.
Have you ever seen this ‘hum’? It is not visible. But from its
trait you will know, ‘here comes the ‘hum’; you can see it in
the eyes.’