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in the world (vyavahar atma) will be created. The Self (nischay
Atma) is the same as it has always been. Should you ever touch
it; you will have attained your salvation! Right now, you are
touched by only the atma that interacts in the world (vyavahar
atma).
This is just the ego (ahamkar) that has arisen. People say,
‘Pain (dukh) is being inflicted on my Atma.’ ‘My Atma is ruined.’
Listen here! If your Atma is spoiled, then it will never be made
better. Anything that has the potential energy (shakti) to spoil;
can never be improved; besides, if it is spoiling right here, then
even when it gets to the abode of the Liberated Souls (Siddha
kshetra), it will spoil over there. But that is the real (nischay)
Atma, and the atma that interacts in the world (vyavahar atma)
has become spoiled. The one which is spoiled is the vyavahar,
and it is the vyavahar that needs to be made shuddha (pure).
If you do not meet a Gnani, then you must make your worldly
interaction (vyavahar) good (shubha), and if you do meet a
Gnani, then you must make your interaction in the world
(vyavahar) pure (shuddha). That is all you have to do. Did you
understand?
So there are no impure phases (ashuddha paryaya)
coming from the Atma. All the impure phases come from the
atma that interacts in the world (vyavahar atma). Now those
phases (paryaya) are the most subtle (sookshma); it is the
subtler (sookshmatar) of circumstances (avastha) that we are
referring to as phases (paryaya). These are all big, big
circumstances (avastha); they are impure circumstances
(ashuddha avastha); gross circumstances (avastha). Is ‘I am
Chandubhai’ just any ordinary circumstance?
Worldly Atma Mistaken for The Absolute Atma
Questioner: Do the properties (gunas) of the atma that
interacts in the world (vyavahar atma) and the real (nischay)
Atma differ?