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moksha (liberation).’ And he would reply, ‘Forget that! Just let
me run my business happily.’
Therefore, the world is real (satya). ‘My wife, my children’,
does he not talk like that? And he becomes obsessed with
woman; he dies for her and even commits suicide! So if it were
an illusion (mithya), would anyone do that? Illusion (mithya) –
even the pesticide to kill bedbugs is not an illusion. If you drank
it, would you not know whether or not it is an illusion? And if
you did drink it, would it not cause a commotion? Therefore
Brahma (Soul) is real (satya), and the world is also real. The
world is a relative truth (satya), and Brahma is a real truth.
You Will Have to Understand the Facts
Questioner: So the interpretation of the term, ‘The world
is an illusion (mithya)’ that they give us, is completely wrong
then, is it not?
Dadashri: In whichever time-cycle (kaad), that meaning
was necessary, it was interpreted in that time-cycle. But exactly
(in truth), this world has never been unreal (mithya).
Questioner: So is it because of maya that it appears as
mithya?
Dadashri: This cannot be maya! What would you say is
illusion (maya)? If someone does magic, and shows you some
rupees (money) in your hands, but even then it has no effect on
you at all; that is called maya. Maya as people understand it to
be - this world is not like that maya.
Maya (illusion) is to not understand the vastu (The Self:
it has dravya-matter, guna-property and paryaya-phases);
exactly as it is. That is called maya (deceit). It is this maya that
does not allow you to understand anything exactly as it is: that
is what you would call maya. What do people understand about
maya? They will say, ‘This is all how it is, it is all just maya’: