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(mithya)? How can you call something which affects you, an
illusion? It has an effect; therefore the world is not an illusion!
Does the mother-in-law not cry when her son-in-law
dies? Or is it not a custom in your culture?
Questioner: Yes, she will cry.
Dadashri: Yes, how can you say that it is an illusion
(mithya)? Therefore this world is true (satya), but it is relative
truth (vinashi satya).
The world is not an illusion at all! The world is not anything
like an illusion (mithya). If the world were an illusion, then these
people would have taken off and abandoned it a long time ago!
This world is real (satya). If it were an illusion, then if a man was
sleeping with his mouth gaped open at night, like this, what
would happen if you threw a chili pepper into it from a distance?
Will he scream or not? Would you have to go and wake him up
from his sleep? Why? Would it affect him even if you do not
wake him up? How would he be able to tell? Therefore, if it
were an illusion, then this would never happen! Just look, is also
the world not real? But the world is a relative truth: the Atma
(Brahma) is real truth.
Questioner: It is illuminated by the light of Brahma
(Atma), is that why it is relative truth?
Dadashri: Yes, it is illuminated by its light, which is why
it is a relative truth (satya). And because it is a relative truth, it
is indeed a truth, however, it is an temporary (vinashi) truth;
whereas the Atma (Brahma) is an eternal (avinashi) truth.
If the world were really an illusion (mithya), then people
would have elected for the Atma. But even this world is true
(satya). That is why they do not let go of the world. Does
anyone outside, speak of letting it go? Someone will say, ‘Come
on, let us go shopping.’ I would say, ‘Come I will give you