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60 Aptavani-5 ‘Heavy’ means he will sink and along with him, so will you. Here there is no need for a guru. Many people ask me if they have to let go of their guru (after Self-realization in Gnan Vidhi) and I tell them, ‘No, you have to keep him.’ You need the worldly guru, do you not? And here in the path of Akram the grace of God is directly upon You. The grace of the Lord of the fourteen worlds is upon You. Questioner: What happens when Gnan manifests? Dadashri: You will not stumble anywhere when Gnan manifests in you. Questioner: What changes occur within? Dadashri: You experience endless bliss within; you will not experience any suffering. You will not be affected by any worries or miseries. Questioner: Can anyone who has realized the Self know if the other person has attained the same? Dadashri: He can. Just as when you go to the market to buy vegetables and you can tell which vegetables are good, similarly You can recognize this too. Questioner: Whom do you refer to when you say God? Is it Lord Mahavir? Dadashri: No, not Lord Mahavir. God means the Self within, who is in the form of the absolute Self (Parmatma). It is the Atma (Self) that we call Parmatma; Lord Mahavir is that too. Mahavir was the name given to Him and I am not talking about someone with that specific name. When it comes to names, some people may like the name and others may get a headache. When we talk about Parmatma, it will not give anyone a headache. Questioner: ‘Pancham divo Shuddhatma sadhaar –