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Aptavani-5 59 is a Shuddhatma (pure Soul) within. After that there is no doubt (shanka) at all. Questioner: What happens if I do not follow the path that You have showed me? Dadashri: It is possible that may happen, but you have to have a desire to follow it. If you do not wish to follow the path, then you may go astray. But if You definitely want to follow it, then there is no problem even if many karmic obstacles arise in your way. The Gnani’s grace will always be working for You if you have a firm desire to follow His path. Even if thousands of karmas come, they will be uprooted through the Gnani’s grace, but there is no solution for the one who wants to go the wrong way. Questioner: If the awareness (laksha) of Shuddhatma does not go away in a situation with a person, does that mean that it has been settled with equanimity? Dadashri: If you have interest in other things, then you will lose the awareness of Shuddhatma. If you have an interest in something, it is bound to latch on to you, is it not? A person will throw a fit even if his kadhee (soup) gets spilled because he has an interest in it. One has to get rid of one’s interest and not the thing itself. Things will not go away even if you try to do so. The whole world attempts to get rid of things. The thing will not go away; it is in your fate. You have to get rid of your interest in those things. Questioner: The difference between the Kramic path and the Akram path is the grace of a guru, is it not? Dadashri: Yes, it is the grace of God. That is all. There is no such thing as a guru here. Who is a guru here? What is the definition of a guru? It is the one who has gurukilli (knowledge which will not let the guru sink). Such a guru can guide you. A guru without a gurukilli is considered ‘heavy’.