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Aptavani-5 45 who becomes restless in circumstances; but despite this it is not possible to maintain tranquillity. Is this because there is a denser veil of the intellect? Dadashri: No, the ruling there is that the Shuddhatma (the pure Self) that ‘Dada’ has given You, is the Seer of all that. If You remain in that state, then there is no problem. Otherwise if you delve into restlessness and tranquillity, then there is no end to it. Questioner: What is the key to that? Dadashri: Whether one is restless or tranquil the pure Self is the Knower of both. One meddles in the ‘foreign department’ (the non-Self) and thus becomes restless. Whether there is restlessness or tranquillity we (the mahatmas) are only concerned with the ‘knowing’ part. All those circumstances are paudgalik of the non-Self, and the One who is the Knower of the circumstances of the non-Self is called Shuddhatma (the pure Self). Paudgalik means puran (input or charge) and galan (output or discharge). Any circumstance that comes to you, will do so only if it was previously charged; thus it will come to you now (in this life) and it will discharge. You are bound to get ‘burnt’ if you stick your hand (meddle) in the ‘foreign’. I never stick my hand in the ‘foreign’ (the non-Self). Whatever ‘fruit’ (result) that is going to unfold is inevitable. In addition, one becomes liable to receive double the effect for meddling. One incurs double the loss! You should take only one loss. You should continue to ‘know’ that ‘Chandubhai’ is restless and the state he is in will be over in fifteen minutes. You will not incur two losses if You just keep ‘seeing’ everything. Questioner: Can it be said that the longer the period of restlessness, the greater the veil of ignorance? Dadashri: Yes, the greater the veil of ignorance, the