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116 Aptavani-5 Questioner: Does the state of ‘Sat Chit Anand’ have form or shape, or is it formless? Dadashri: It is formless (aroopi); that it is formless is a point worth understanding. There is no need to understand right away. For the time being you have to understand how to attain it. It has been called formless, shapeless (nirakaar), so for now just understand that it is formless, you will be able to understand the rest later. It has been called nirakaar for a certain purpose. Certain talks of purpose-goal are such that they are understood only after the goal is realized. The Self is free of karmas (niranjan). It has not been affected by karmas. Even today the Self within you is a pure Self. It can be ‘seen’ clearly. But you simply have the belief that you have done many bad deeds (paap) and good deeds (punya). All the wrong beliefs have set in. The Gnani Purush breaks the wrong belief and replaces it with the right one. When the right belief sets in, then You become aware that ‘I am God’. Prashasta Moha Maya (deceit, the illusion that deceives the Self) means ignorance of the Self. There is no such thing as maya; it is a relative state. It is temporary and You are permanent. How long will it stay? It will remain as long as you have moha (illusory attachment) towards temporary things. When you attain the knowledge, ‘I am pure Self’, when moha for the Self arises; maya will come to an end. Questioner: After some time one should not have moha for the Self, is that not correct? Dadashri: Moha for the Self is good; that is not considered moha. It is called moha in our worldly language. Moha means murchha (attraction); that is not really considered affection for the Self