Aptavani-5
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Questioner: How can one attain as much knowledge as
you have, as a Gnani?
Dadashri: All you have to do is to sit with Him (the
Gnani) and attain His grace, nothing else. Everything only
happens through the grace of the Gnani. You can attain
kevalgnan (absolute knowledge) through the grace of the
Gnani. You will bind karmas if you try to do anything because
you have not realized ‘who you are’. You will realize who the
doer is when You realize ‘who You are’.
All Worldly Interactions Are Relative
You can attain liberation even by simply understanding
‘What worldly life (vyavahar) is’. This worldly life is relative; all
these ‘relatives’ are temporary adjustments and the ‘real’ (the
Self) is the permanent adjustment.
To project ‘I am’ in temporary things; is the wrong belief.
‘I am Chandubhai, I am her husband,’ etc., are all wrong beliefs.
Are you absolutely convinced that you are ‘Chandubhai’? Shall
I give you proof of that? If someone were to insult you, would
you be affected?
Questioner: Not a bit.
Dadashri: Would you be affected if someone picked
your pocket?
Questioner: For a little while.
Dadashri: Then you are ‘Chandubhai’. If you are
‘Chandubhai’ only by vyavahar (for worldly interaction purpose
only) then nothing will affect You.
Questioner: If that is so, then what is the difference
between us (the Self-realized, mahatmas) and other people?
One must get rid of, renounce, that which is wrong for sure. So
if we develop that then a change will gradually come.