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going to be burnt, is it not? You only have to study this a little.
How is an ascetic able to walk bare foot? How are the farmers
able to walk bare foot? You too would get used to it after you
get burnt once or twice. How can you call suffering that which
can be cured by taking just one pill? Suffering of pain is that
which cannot be reduced, even after you take hundreds of pills.
Now nothing is yours. You have surrendered your all to
the Gnani Purush. You have surrendered your mind-body-
speech and all illusion, bhaavkarma (charge karma),
dravyakarma (subtle discharge karma), nokarma (gross
discharge karma); all have been surrendered, nothing is left with
You.
The Suffering of the Gnani Purush and the Lord
Questioner: A Gnani suffers with dhairya (stoicism,
non-reactive patience) and an agnani suffers with crying, but a
Gnani still suffers, does he not?
Dadashri: Suffering will not go away, but the Gnani
suffers that pain with dhairya (stoicism, non-reactive patience).
Dhairya is according to each individual’s capacity. However,
Lord Mahavir was absolutely a Knower. He would ‘know’ of
even a bite from a bed bug but He would not suffer it. The
degree of suffering is in proportion with the portion of ignorance.
You have become the pure Self (Shuddhatma) through
conviction (shraddha, pratiti). When You become the Self
through Gnan (experience), then all that will remain, will simply
be the ‘knowing’. Until then there is suffering (vedan). And
during the suffering, I tell You to remain detached, remain in the
‘home department’, as the Self. Do not leave Your home
department, no matter how much the external circumstances call
for You to do so. Let them call You twelve hundred times. Why
should You leave Your ‘office’?
Even the Tirthankars have pain-pleasure experiences
(shata-ashata vedaniya) but they remain as Knower through