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528 Aptavani-2 can experience the state of the siddha when they still have their kashays. Ask them, “Maharaj you still have kashaya, do you not?” and they will say, “The kashays are still there.” Then you can say, “Then you are not a karan-siddha.” The maharaj himself will say, “No, I am a sansari.” If you ask them, will they not tell you so? They will. If they say that they are free of kashays, then you will immediately find out when you provoke them. They will get irritated even before you provoke them. People who are restless and troubled will become agitated and restless even while they are talking. Hyperactivity and laziness : worldly and spiritual Do not become panicky and hyper (raghavatio) under any circumstance. The Self is never so, it is the absolute supreme, so is there any need for restlessness? Drink tea, have snacks, play music, do everything. Instead everyone is caught up in overt restlessness. The Gnanis of the Kramic path will not let their disciples drink even a glass of water in peace. If someone is drinking water and takes too long, they will tell him, “Move from here. You are being spiritually lazy (pramaadi).” They do not let anyone drink water peacefully. They are restless and always in a hurry. The heck with your label of laziness (pramaad)! Take your label of ‘spiritual laziness’ with you and go home. We don’t want such a moksha! How can we follow such a path of moksha where the master does not even allow us to drink water? Have you seen such hyperactivity on the spiritual path? Questioner : I have indeed! I have spent two years with these types of sadhus! Dadashri : There, the word ‘pramaad’ (spiritual apathy) causes intense hyperactivity. Instead of that why don’t you do pramaad so that your agitation can be allayed? What a contradiction! This Akram Vignan is a wonderful science that has come