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tell you, “It is because division already exists within them, within
each individual. Those who are karan-siddha do not experience
the division within, they experience moksha. So how can you
call those who experience moksha, worldly (sansari)?”
Lord Mahavir had tremendous wisdom from a very young
age. The Lord left this world at the age of 72. He was very
wise. How wise? At the age of 30, His wisdom was such that
it gave everyone around, tremendous happiness. He did not
really leave home when He did; it was all due to circumstantial
evidences. Just like when ‘we’ leave Santa Cruz to come to
Dadar, does that mean that ‘we’ have left Santa Cruz? No.
Those were the circumstantial evidences of that event. We are
all guided by vyavasthit; scientific circumstantial evidences. We
act according to the way vyavasthit makes us, from within. The
Lord had nothing left to do. The one who has no doer-ship left,
has nothing left to suffer. How can the one who has no doer-ship
left, have anything to suffer or experience?
Whatever the Lord said, these maharajas have adhered
to; they claim they are Jain ascetics. Whom does the Lord
consider a karan-siddha (causal siddhas)? Sadhus, upadhyays,
acharyas and tirthankaras (all part of the Panch Parmeshti, all
that have attained the Self) are those to whom the Lord has
given the status of karan-siddhas. They appear as worldly
beings (sansaris) but there is a difference in the way they
experience things. All four experience the bliss of the Siddha and
you all experience worldly pain and pleasure. All the acharya
maharajas claim, “We cannot be considered sansari (worldly
beings).” But maharaj, on what basis are you not a worldly
being? Give ‘us’ some proof so that ‘we’ can believe that. In
testing, even if ‘we’ see 25% gold, ‘we’ will accept it to be
100%.’ Now, how much more lenient can ‘we’ get? ‘We’ are
ready to accept 25% as being 99%. However, after ‘we’
explain everything to them, the maharajs themselves accept that
they cannot be considered karan-siddha. I ask them, how they