seasons that are hard, and going through we see it as a room of people and not as many six months ago and sat with forever, shot ideas
seasons that they weren’t expecting, that life individuals. To just remind yourself that these back and forth forever, and then were even
wasn’t supposed to look like that, but that God are people who each have a story and a history rewriting them while we were in the studio
will still use it and God is right in the middle of and to get to know them, spend time with recording them and finalizing things. It’s kind of
it with you. It’s going to be amazing to see the the people in your church. Get to know who all over the place.
legs that that book carries and the word that you are serving. That’s going to change your it carries. dynamic when you’re leading them in worship [WM] On your social feeds I noticed that you
because there is a heart connection. You’re like to share what you are listening to. Who is
[WM] Speaking of your family, there is a photo not just going to be playing these songs to a on your playlist now?
of your Mom playing banjo. You obviously come faceless crowd. You’re playing for the person in from a musical family. Can you tell us about that the second row because you know what their [Mack] I listen to a lot of top 40 on Spotify and
and how it impacted you as a musician? story is and what they are going through. It just see what’s coming out. There’s a songwriter
takes y ou to a whole other level of experiencing called Benny Blanco that’s awesome who has
God in those moments. a song called “East Side”. He’s a songwriter
that has been writing for everybody for years
[WM] When your write, do you tend to write and years and now he’s doing his own thing.
from the ‘me perspective’, the ‘speaking to God I love Bon Iver. I love Kid Cudi. There’s a lot of
perspective’, or the ‘speaking into perspective’ Hip Hop stuff that I listen to. It’s kind of all over
as it relates to the life of someone you know – the place.
or a combination of the above?
[WM] Thanks again for joining us Mack. Is
[Mack] I feel like it’s all of the above. Different
there anything else you’d like to add?
themes will come up or different ideas.
Mary Brock
Sometimes it’s like, “This is what I’m going [Mack] It’s my pleasure. I think the only other
through and this is what I need to get out.” And thing would be going back to what I said earlier,
[Mack] My mom is awesome! Mary Brock sometimes, it’s about what a family member or dig deep in your community. Wherever you
– she’s a drummer, my dad is a pastor and a friend of mine is going through. Then a lot of are plugged in, plant yourself and get into the
she still plays drums every week at my dad’s times I love the vertical worship. I’ll catch myself messy parts of all of the relationships there
church. I grew up playing music with her. She’s sometimes and think I’m writing a lot of songs because that’s where you’re going to see so
a good drummer, she hits the drums hard and about the stuff that I’m going through and that I much fruit. That’s where you’re going to see
aggressively, and she’s awesome. She didn’t haven’t written any that are just declaring God’s God do amazing things. It’s so easy for us to
want me to become a musician, because she glory and greatness and think I need to get go Sunday to Sunday, weekend to weekend,
was a musician and she knew how hard it was back to that. So it’s all of the above. in and out and not even know what we’re a
and how hard the life of a musician can be. But
part of. So, I just want to challenge everybody
I was persistent and eventually convinced her [WM] Do you find that you work fast, need to dig deep. God’s going to show up and it’ll
to teach me some things and kind of started time for things to develop, or a combination of be amazing.
from there. the two? [WM] Worship leaders don’t just lead worship, [Mack] Even that is a varied experience. they lead teams. What are some of the most Sometimes I’ll get in a session and we’ll have important two hours together so we’ll write a song in two
things
that
teams
should
do
musically, spiritually, and culturally?
hours and feel great about it. Other times I’ll get
into a songwriting session where we’ll throw
[Mack] I would say the biggest thing, if you are out ideas and leave with maybe a portion of a
part of a worship team serving at your church, chorus and it’ll take months of tweaking and
the best thing you can do is to remember that rewriting. It’s kind of all over the place, even
you are serving – serving your people, serving on this record. I’ve got some songs that came
your congregation. Sometimes when we get in really fast that we barely tweaked on the back
a crowd, and we get into a room full of people, end. Then I’ve got other songs that we started
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