leaders , in precarious situations . How would you encourage worship leaders dealing with this tragedy ?
[ Cody ] Man , yeah , it ’ s a heavy season in some ways , in all of that . It ’ s very sobering . And as worship leaders there is a hope in the fact that our commitment goes beyond a person . It goes to Jesus . It goes beyond an imperfect human person . It goes to the person of Jesus , he is our commitment and our faith and our anchor . And all the more so that the beauty of the fact that Jesus never changes , and he never lets us down in the ways that people around us do . And I think it ’ s very easy to get really bitter and cynical . And it ’ s very easy to assume that the struggles of some people could not be our own struggles . It ’ s very easy to look at it with not a lot of grace .
It ’ s very easy to kind of project that on the church as a whole and I think that it ’ s fighting those ideas . It ’ s fighting the ideas of , “ Well , the church is just going ,” and does those very general blanket statements and it ’ s while still believing that the church is the hope of the world . The church is the thing that Jesus designed to put on the earth . The church is the bride that He ’ s preparing that He ’ s making pure for his return . And so I think it ’ s really important to separate out those pains . And first of all , have grace , even in those situations , you have to . You must forgive the people that have hurt you for holding onto unforgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting it to hurt the other person . You ’ ve got to forgive to be able to heal yourself . And again , just lead people through those moments that the church is hurting in a lot of ways , the church is looking for this answer and this security . The answer is in the presence of Jesus , it ’ s in healing .
And a person hurting us and a person , a leader , breaking our trust does not represent who Jesus is . It does not represent the fact that Jesus could lead us astray or could break our trust , that will never happen . And so it ’ s really solidifying the faith in Jesus and leading our congregations into that place again where we ’ ve been in a place where I think a lot of beautiful thing things have happened . People have been so impacted by the megachurch movement and that ’ s had so much great glory and great building of the kingdom of God . But there ’ s also been things about it that I think that God is trying to strip away in some ways and bring us back to just the simple things , bring us back to the church of ten people in a living room . And we don ’ t have to have all of this stuff and we don ’ t have to have all of these .
It ’ s not bad to have those things , but maybe in some ways we got too focused on it . Maybe in some ways we found too much affirmation in it . And what about the moment just in the secret place with Jesus , that being the prize , that