drums at the expense of diction quality in the [Patrick] We are going to cover the material
lead vocals. Suggestions? from Level 1 and Level 2, but we are not
main output on their board.
going to use that PowerPoint, we are going to [WM] How did the whole partnership with
[Patrick] There are challenges aren’t there? approach all of that material from a day-to-day NAMM come together?
The shortest answer is you turn it down. As life perspective. At the end on Friday afternoon long as you can hear it, the snare drum does we will have some extra time and I expect [Patrick] We’ve done training at Summer
not have to kick you in the chest. people will use it to take the test. If they have and Winter NAMM now for three or four years.
questions, I can’t tell people what the answers Summer NAMM is a smaller show than Winter
[WM] As musicians we all tend to struggle with are, but if you’re having trouble with the test or NAMM, and we are trying to think of how to
striking a balance between playing for the room what the question is getting at, we can answer revise that a little bit. I wanted to do the life skill
and the team versus our personal preferences. that. So you should be able to leave with the thing. I saw a couple of people that needed
What are your thoughts about negotiating the certifications if you want. a new curriculum to come together, and that
emotions that we all have about ‘our sound’
versus making it work for the congregation?
was really the crux of it. So that was my idea
[WM] What are some of the benefits of the on how to do it. I proposed it to NAMM and
certification? they’ve been all in.
is manage expectations with yourself too. [Patrick] It is like a college degree in that Earlier in our conversation we talked about
There is only so much you’re going to be able you have started something, you can finish how the community has changed over the last
to do. There is only so much space for this something, and you have been exposed to couple years. When we did battle of the bands
stuff to dissipate so there’s only so much I can certain topics. Going through our program and that kind of stuff back in the 80’s, nobody
do. There are the unwinnable wars and you forces you to think about these things at a had a PA big enough, so each band brought
make the best of it you can. In the case where technical level. Where you were thinking about their PA and we usually combined them in some
something is competing with the vocal, vocal them at a practical level like, “How do I get way to get the PA we needed. Everybody used
always wins in my book, especially in House of through this gig”, now we’re going to teach you to have to bring their gear together, everybody
Worship because the whole point of the whole how the network runs properly. shared.
that I could almost mute in live and you would I think most people’s network knowledge is The idea of recreating that community where
still hear it because you see it. Your eyes and based on their home network, but it’s not people come together and talk about the
your ears start working together in ways where, based on someone teaching them why it life lessons of it, that is the driving force. It
if you can see the drums, you can back it off in works, how you make it go. Once you come is a House of Worship event, and I believe
the mix and still get away with it pretty well. A to this class you are learning why it works, so everybody presenting has done sound at
lot of churches don’t do that, because maybe now if you want to make changes you have churches. Tres Cozad from Yamaha will be up
they don’t get enough time to practice, so as the wherewithal and the skill to make those there, and he came to Yamaha from a church.
long as the drummer is staying on two and four decisions wisely. As the network increases in Eric from Sennheiser works with portable
they’re going to be okay. They don’t have to bandwidth you do have to start thinking about churches. I think his church is portable and he’s
ask the question of what key it’s in (laughs). it differently. Sixty-four channels coming from a come up with methods to try to make things
stage to a console and back, and having some easier to set up and tear down and get a decent
So sometimes you don’t win, and that’s part basic PA and distributed audio, it’s not actually sound. Kevin Kimmel certainly has run sound at
of the game you’ve got to know. If that snare a complicated system. But if people don’t church a lot. He’s a great sound engineer and
drum is too loud maybe I don’t put a mic on it. understand networking it becomes this black does broadcast things, live sound, and tours
The only thing you could do is put a mic there, box, and I don’t know how this works. with Yamaha. Everybody has their hearts in the
[Patrick] One of the things you have to do
thing is the message. Drums are something
scoop out the middle, and try to emphasize
right place on it too, so it’s more than just a
some other part of the drum where it would fit in Here’s a quotable for you, “People don’t the mix. But like I said, if the room is too small, understand how it works, they just know that there is a point for electric drums and things it does, until it doesn’t”. Then they say, “Well, I Short answer, it’s going to be about rebuilding
like that. know how my sound box works, whatever the the community we’ve lost since people kind off
problem is it must be in the network”. And more went into their silos with the online community –
[WM] Tell us about how the boot camp is a often than not the network is totally fine, they and the belief in the larger mission!
potential path to Dante certification? just didn’t realize they accidentally muted the
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