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32 WHO AM I ? moksha. I would tell them that it is not a necessity for them to want moksha. But do they at least want happiness? People do not understand what moksha really is. They just use the word ‘moksha.’ They are under the impression that moksha has a particular location and once they reach there, they will enjoy moksha. But it is not like that. TWO STAGES OF MOKSHA Questioner : Ordinarily by ‘moksha’, we mean release or freedom from the cycles of birth and death. Dadashri : Yes it is true, but that is the final stage of liberation. It is the secondary stage. The first stage of moksha is where you experience a sense of neutrality towards problems and miseries. In the first stage of moksha, one experiences indifference towards any worldly unhappiness. Even in worldly unhappiness, one remains unaffected. In the midst of oopadhi (suffering imposed upon you by others or external factors) you experience samadhi (to be free from suffering and to experience the state of one’s own bliss). That is the first stage of moksha. The second stage of moksha, permanent moksha, is attained after death. The first stage of moksha should be attained here and now. I experience this first stage of moksha all the time. Moksha should be such that even while one lives amongst the worldly things, they do not affect him. That is the moksha one must strive for. There is no bondage. This stage of moksha is possible through Akram Vignan. EXPERIENCING MOKSHA IN DAILY LIVING Questioner : Is such freedom or moksha experienced while one is living (jeevanmukti) or is it the freedom that comes after death? Dadashri : What is the point of having freedom after you are dead? This is how people become conned into promises of