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(continued from page 33) The Virginia Golfer Conversation back and read some of the early years they wouldn’t believe it. VG: One hundred years from now when you and I are long gone, do you think you’ll be remembered more as a Masters champion and golfer or for the golf courses you’ve left behind as an architect? BC: That’s an interesting question. When you build a golf course or are in concert in building one, it’s a very lasting thing— hopefully. One thing that’s so great is that certainly people in the South and all over will remember the Masters champions. We will always go down together as Masters champions. People don’t forget those things. It’s very hard to balance what we do and what people will remember. I’d be content in saying I was a lover of the game. VG: Do you think the work you and Bill Coore have created will be as revered as the courses of Alister MacKenzie, Donald Ross, A.W. Tillinghast and other classic designers? BC: If we ever came anywhere close to those gentlemen, we’d be happy. We’re not there yet. We treat each one very special. We don’t do that many. We try to put the best foot forward. At this point, we’re just happy that people have enjoyed playing them. Those guys were special for a reason—all of that echelon. [Bob] Jones, MacKenzie, Ross, Tillinghast, Harry Cole, Charles Macdonald. There isn’t one of their courses that isn’t a museum piece. VG: You and Coore restored Pinehurst No. 2 to considerable acclaim. Would you be interested in being the architectural consultant at Augusta National? BC: I haven’t been asked, which is fine. I’d be happy to. I think they’ve got it in pretty darn good shape, though. They’ve done such a good job over the years in trying to accommodate younger, powerful players. They’ve had to do that. All of the players constantly think about the course and how it plays. We all enjoy it. It’s a great test and a great thrill. What I think is fascinating is that the course of yesteryear and the players who played it then and the players who play it now still go through the same emotional toll that the course extracts. You cannot win the tournament without taking chances. You can take crazy chances sometimes and that gets you in trouble. The nature of the course is that it’s so spectacular to see a really bold shot come off and to see, as yours truly has been on several times, the end of spectacular crashes. That’s the nature w w w. v s g a . o r g 32_VSGA_VGConvo.indd 39 of it. Somebody can come from way behind or somebody can start to fumble if they’re at the front. Not too many other courses yield that. I still think Jackie Burke said it really well, that Augusta is the most tempting course in the world. You have lots of room to create shots and imagine shots. It’s very inviting and really does tempt you. How good are you today? It’s thrilling that way. VG: As one of the golf’s greatest putters, what is your advice to any player who has the yips? BC: Yips are a fear of something that inhibits you. It’s a fear of missing the putt or not reading a putt properly or not getting any sort of pace right. Bob Jones said it really well. I don’t care if it’s a one- or two-foot putt, the club has to swing. It’s not a jab or a hit. It’s a stroke. It’s a miniature golf stroke. To keep the club swinging is what anyone wants. That club has to go through that ball somehow. Yips are mainly a fear of missing. Everybody is going to miss. The idea is to hit a good putt so it has a chance. I know that probably sounds too simple, but the club must be swung and it must be a stroke of some sort. VG: Why were you one of the last players to transition from persimmon to metalwoods? BC: There was a handful of us who were the last holdouts. It was just what you think you could play with consistently. Once you got a good metal club in your hands, you could see that it was much easier to swing and to play with. The mis-hits were better. I held off at least until 1993 or 1994. VG: Another Texan, Jordan Spieth, came very close to joining you in that Champions locker room last year. What are your thoughts about his future? BC: I am so much in his corner, and like him so much as a person. He’s got a knack for playing golf. He’s played very solidly as young as he is. He had a wonderful run last year. He was right there and seemed to embrace the place. He knows what he wants to do as far as how to play it. He’s knocking at the door a lot. He’s a special young man. I didn’t know him that well because he only stayed one year at the University of Texas. I got to play with him once and was sort of spellbound as to how he just played his own game and had a great imagination. He played our course, Austin Golf Club, and he just reacted to it and played a very nice round. Interviewer Scott Michaux