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Michelle Williams & Sam Rockwell as Gwen and Bob in the FX series Fosse/Verdon away, and he would go away. She would change the steps, fix the steps, make it so that I could do it - and look good doing it - to achieve the look that he wanted. And then he would come back in and say, “I don’t know what you just did. But yeah, that’s right.” Sherman: She understood how to translate and communicate. Did your mom ever talk about Marilyn Monroe or any of her MGM days? Fosse: She was on the movie sets from the time she was a very little girl, because her father was an electrician at MGM Studios. In fact, that was a phrase that Michelle Williams used to imitate my mother’s voice before she would do a scene for FX. She took it from some interview of my mother. And you’d hear Michelle Williams chant- ing back behind the scenes, “My father was an electrician. We came from Culver City, California. My father was an electrician…” That’s how she would slide into her “Gwen voice”... so, my mother was really used to being on Hollywood musical sets and grew up around all the stars, doing everything. She had fun working, and she loved being around creative people. I don’t know that she ever wanted to be a Cyd Charisse or a Marilyn Monroe. Sherman: And that’s a story he told later in life in the musical, Pippin. Did your father ever discuss that with you? Sherman: But your dad dreamed of being Fred Astaire, correct? Sherman: So how did that piece of information come to be in the FX series? Why is it your belief that that moment in time was an important one in shaping him as a human being? Fosse: He did dream of being Fred Astaire. After being part of “The Riff Brothers”, he joined the Navy. He was very patriotic, and he enlisted in World War II. Apparently he was home after basic training, and his dance teacher Fred Weaver contacted his Sergeant and said, “You can’t send him out. You can’t put him on active duty. He’s really talented, and you can’t let anything happen to him!” He was 17 years old! He was put on entertainment duty and kitchen duty. So he peeled potatoes and tap danced. Joe Papp was also on entertain- ment duty in the Navy with my father … As a tap dancer in the Navy, my dad went into a lot of hospitals - and that is shown in the FX series. What a profound experience that must have been. Fosse: No. Fosse: We [can] look at his work that came after that. War and politics play a role in Pippin. In Dancin’, there’s a whole patriotic section and there’s a solo called, “When Johnny Comes Marching Home” that Ann Reinking originated, as well as a lost ballet from “Hail The Conquering Hero” that I’ve been told about by people who were in it (who are now deceased). So, there was that... And then he had this very soft place in his heart for any kind of beggar on the street. And you have to understand that in the 1960s and 1970s, a lot of homeless were Vietnam veterans. When my father died, I remember taking all the pennies VTMAG.COM HOLIDAY 2019 37