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Interview In personal transport space, don't you think two-wheelers should also be promoted? Mr. Rajiv: Yes. Here are some interesting figures. 86% of the vehicles on the roads are non-cars. Only 14% are cars out of which only 2% are cars above Rs. 5 lakh. Rest are all below Rs. 5 lakh. Let us focus on 86% which are not cars. What are they made up of? Two-wheelers, three-wheelers, and buses. Two- wheelers are a huge number and they will be the future of electric mobility tomorrow (and) we should focus on that. But, two-wheelers at the moment don't include electric bicycles, which should also be brought in. We should also promote the pedal bicycles which is a healthier option. This, however, requires the mindset change and also change in urban planning. Today, we have not left our roads safe either for pedestrians and cyclists. We must make sure that we make smart cities which are conducive for cycling, and walking and at the same time make that into a 'Jan Andolan' for a mindset change. You can also provide charging stations for some cars. But if you are promoting commuting by zero- emission vehicles or if you are doing rural-urban connectivity, swapping might be the best. We have these three-wheelers who can stop at a dhaaba like place, quickly take out the battery and put the other in and be on their way. And then we can have specialized battery charging establishments that run on solar power. One should not look at this stage, think of ‘this versus that’. One should be fairly technology agnostic at this stage and policies should allow flexibility make sure that it is technology agnostic. Today, we are into lithium ion, but tomorrow we may well be into graphite or into fuel cells. The point is to provide impetus away from non- zero emission. While batteries are charged at 28% GST, but for electric vehicles, the slab is 12% only. Mr. Rajiv: All these issues are tackled in the papers that we are writing now and in the framework paper also, separate committed paper. We are Mr. Rajiv: I cannot say (about that) just now. I should not pre-empt my own colleagues who are working hard (on this). SMEV has urged the union government to make policies that will help manufacturers in the short term meaning 3 months to 3 years. The reason they offer is that it will give clarity to manufacturers who have already invested in developing EVs in India. What is your view of the suggestion? Mr. Rajiv: Absolutely, we are committed to doing this. As I said, two months time is not a waiting for good. SMEV has raised concerns over the proposed cap of 20% on ex-factory rice of EVs. Mr. Rajiv: I don't know about it. SIAM has expressed concerns that the government should encourage a policy that will generate large volumes. They are also asking for similar incentives on EVs. What is the sense that you are getting? Mr. Rajiv: We are all getting on to the same page. I don't think that either the industry or officials should approach phase i.e. these two months with any pre-set notions. My own one thought is that if we can promote shared electric mobility without necessarily depending on subsidies, that is a much better and self- sustaining move forward. I am not ruling out subsidies but these would have to be PM Narendra Modi flagged off the Smart E-Bus, an indigenous technology developed by the KPIT at the Indian Parliament. very Do you think charged battery poses far better options as compared to charging stations when it comes to electric vehicles? Mr. Rajiv: Horses for courses. There is no trade-off between one and the other. For example, if you have buses which requires large batteries, you will need an infrastructure which should be built either at the depots or at other terminals. WWW.URBANTRANSPORTNEWS.COM preparing five thematic papers and one umbrella paper for our big global mobility summit on 7th and 8th of September, which the PM himself is leading. That summit will not just be a photo-op opportunity. It will have announcements on all these issues. I assure you that we will achieve policy consistency by that time the summit is taking place. So what will be the key takeaways? 46 targeted and tied to some specific objectives which we want to achieve in the short run. But as you can well appreciate, it is such a large industry and going to occupy such a huge space, that we need to find the trajectory for a self-sustained rapid growth. Each state govt have come out with their own policies on EVs. Do you think that is the way forward? Or do you support a pan-India guideline for EVs which has a Urban Transport Infrastructure | November 2018