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[ C O V E R S T O R Y | C AT H Y G I B S O N ] [ C O V E R S T O R Y | C AT H Y G I B S O N ] We were able to hire on both the equity and fixed income sides, which gave me the opportunity to diversify my desk in terms of both a gender and skill set perspective. We were able to bring in people with skills that we didn’t have here before. n February 2018, Cathy Gibson joined Royal Lon- don Asset Man- agement (RLAM) in London to establish and lead its new centralised dealing desk, covering all asset classes, but primarily focused on equities and fixed income. The move marked a significant shift in scale for Gibson, having previously headed up the fixed income UK business for DWS (Deutsche Asset Management), While the two firms have dif- ferent resource pools available to them, the similarities between the two roles are that Gibson was handed the responsibility to build the desk up from the ground on both occasions and it was the strength of diversity and spirit of collaboration within the trading team that Gibson most wanted to bring to the RLAM operation. RLAM already possessed a depth of experience and skill on the equities front, so the first challenge 42 // TheTrade // Summer 2019 required to bring the fixed income capabilities up to the same level, and Gibson says that she was very conscious to bring as varied a range of skills sets on board as possible. “We were able to hire on both the equity and fixed income sides, which gave me the opportunity to diversify my desk in terms of both a gender and skill set perspective,” she says. “We were able to bring in people with skills that we didn’t have here before. Being able to watch that merge and integrate over the last 15 months has been fantastic.” Gibson believes that the blend of experience the firm already possessed in conjunction with fresh blood and skills means the desk is “much stronger now as a result” and was helped by physically locating both the equities and fixed income teams in one place. While the desk is very much a cross-asset dealing operation, Gibson wants to preserve the individual experiences and talents that each member of the team brings to the table. “We have subject matter expertise and they diversify across that, so I don’t expect fixed income traders to be trading equities and vice versa, but a fixed income trader can trade an equity future as easily as they can a fixed income future, for example,” she explains. “There is definitely crossover in terms of what they can do, but I believe in having that expertise and spe- cialisation within the trading desk. The challenge is bringing those together and making sure it works.” Bringing new talent to the desk has also created opportunities for RLAM and its trading processes. Gibson details how one new hire with significant ex- perience of equity algo trading has been handed a re- mit to assess the firm’s options in algorithmic trading and what is available in the market, while another hire came from a firm which had a high level of segregation between high- and low-touch trading. “Using her background and expertise we were able to introduce low-touch trading to RLAM for the first time ever,” she says. “We are still at the conservative stage, it has been tried and tested, and we will roll this out across all asset types.” Segregating job roles was also one of the biggest tasks facing Gibson in the creation of RLAM’s new- look desk, particularly when trying to foster a culture of valuing individual skills and ownership of each role within the team, something that can be a challenge in what she describes as a “very flat structure”. That segregation primarily refers to the roles of the traders and portfolio managers, which Gibson points out was already in effect before she joined the firm, but was still a relatively new feature and one that had not been rolled out across asset classes. Gibson says that this has now been extended across the desk’s multiple asset operations and that although one would expect there to be “bumps in the road”, RLAM en- countered very few of these obstacles: “That is really a testament to the traders, but also to the portfolio managers in their ability to trust their trades with the people on the desk,” she says. Changing relationships The relationships between buy- side traders and portfolio manag- ers has been a shifting dynamic through increasing use of technolo- gies on trading desks and changing market structures, and RLAM is no different from any of its peers in this respect. Gibson believes her own traders and portfolio manag- ers are particularly close on the high-touch channels – although there is of course dialogue for less liquid-type assets – however, she sees the low-touch side as the opposite. “I actually see there probably being more and more distance be- tween the portfolio managers and cash flow management, small trade allocations and small futures,” she explains. “ I see portfolio managers being very separated from that, mainly because they don’t need to be close to it and, ultimately, I Issue 60 // TheTradeNews.com // 43