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[ I N T E R V I E W ceiving end of creating capabilities at scale for multiple banks. I see the whole process or value chain of what banks do themselves and what an infrastructure or a service provider, like we are, is doing will change dramatically over time. The second force is that there will be disintermediation. There is more demand from customers to go direct, for instance, a pension fund that wants direct access to the exchange instead of via bank, or retail customers who want to buy assets directly, not even through a broker anymore, but almost getting direct access to some of our ser- vices. That’s a difficult discussion, because banks are our customers and in some cases the market is driving towards services where the banks are less involved, so we need to find solutions where we still maintain that relationship and the connection while still moving the industry forward. We discussed this at board level and everybody understands that in some cases that is required. The general stance of our shareholders and customers is that we would rather have SIX do it than a big technology compa- ny coming in and taking even more away from us. I believe companies driven by technology, big data or information will invade the banking space, and therefore also potentially invade the space of organisations that provide services to banks. SIX can leverage from the smaller tech companies and start-ups, and if they are at scale then we can buy or integrate them, but if the bigger ones, like Google, come into our space and decide that it can also run an exchange or payments that will be a serious threat. We need to make sure that our technology capabil- ities are always current and fresh. We cannot afford to run with legacy systems or play catch up, we need to continuously invest in technol- ogy to be able to compete, while also having the huge advantage of being regulated. That is perhaps one of the core values that we have as a company. Regulation, on one hand, is a pain, but on the other it gives us a unique position as being a regulated entity, with FINMA and regulators giving us a stamp, and having the opportunity to influence the regulations. Although I think | J O S D I J S S E L H O F ] those bigger tech companies will try to invade, we have a really good chance to compete if we keep our technology capabilities at the right level to sustain that. These companies have deep pockets and that’s why we need to continue to invest in our tech- nology. We need to make sure we are relevant, agile and cost efficient, that we are able to deal with volumes and other elements that the industry requires, benefit from cloud solutions and not keep everything in a private data centre because that’s the way it used to be. We need to look at which data sets to keep very private, which need to keep at country level and which can be moved into the public cloud. If we don’t do these kinds of things, then we will become a dinosaur. How has work progressed on the SIX Digital Exchange and do you see this as a viable model for the industry to follow? JD: We announced that we will go into this space and did so with some courage, basically saying that while we are entering the space, we do not have all the answers yet. Issue 58 // TheTradeNews.com // 87