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REIT ASIAPAC COVER STORY INDEXED PRICE PERFORMANCE OF HK REITS (TO 24 SEP 2018) PAG Spring needs to disclose related-party transactions and improve performance Broderick Storie, PAG Real Estate Partner PAG’s bid was narrowly rejected despite a very substantial premium. Why do you think this was so? Would you continue to try to build this awareness and then hopefully in six months or in a year relaunch your bid or do you take the view that this is just too hard, I might as well sell off my shares? The Hong Kong market is unique when you compare it to other markets around the world – HK- REITs typically have a sponsor as an anchor investor. Sponsors usually hold about a third of the shares, or more, of a REIT, and there is independent research that will back this statistic. I wouldn't be a particularly prudent investor if I told you everything that we were going to do. I won’t answer too precisely except to say this – we've increased our stake in Spring REIT. We've been in this vehicle now for almost three years. We've got 16.6% of the vehicle, and so we're a material unitholder. We plan to stay focused on making sure that we protect our investment and we are going to hold the manager accountable. And as you've seen from what we did [in 2017] and what we've done [last year], we have the resources both in terms of capital and expertise to ensure that we can do the most we can to protect our investment. Specific to Spring REIT, we knew from the outset that there was an entrenched sponsor stake and that stake is about 32%. This “I think that ultimately we will need to see some level of regulatory reform. I think it's very well documented that the general perception from large global equity investors is that it's probably been one of the weaker major markets from a governance perspective — both regarding how it's applied by those vested with the responsibility to administer governance but also in terms of the regulatory protections within the legislation.” You have owned Spring REIT for about three years now. Could you share what led you to take such a significant stake? created a very high hurdle for us to be successful. If you take out the 32% sponsor stake, the acceptance rate was approximately 61.2% of third-party unitholders. So when you consider it from that perspective, the bid’s result shows a vote of no confidence in the manager. PAG has about US$30 billion in assets under management. We run three different strategies: traditional private equity, absolute return – which has things like hedge funds and credit funds, and our real estate private equity business. We have the option to go into vehicles like this and build up a stake. That’s consistent with the strategies that we run within our business. And this is not the first example. About four years ago, we had close to 18.8% of Forterra Trust. The reality is it's always going to be challenging when you've got such an entrenched stake, and we were aware of that from the outset. But our action has continued to build a broader unitholder consensus. We have brought attention to some of the fundamental issues both from a performance and a governance perspective, and we hope this will lead to change over the near term. 6 April 2013 April 2014 April 2015 April 2016 April 2017 April 2018 Source: S&P Global Market Intelligence (as of 31 December 2018) I recall that Forterra owned mostly commercial properties in China, and there was a period when its sponsor had certain solvency issues. Was it an opportunistic play on your part? what we would consider questionable governance actions, we decided to take action. We've got a much deeper track record in real estate investing than the target. And we're also in a position where we're well equipped to deal with these sort of underperformance issues. The best way to say this is we're an opportunistic deep value investor. You're right it was under pressure because the sponsor had certain debt pressures that were European driven and they were looking for strategic options to deal with that situation. So that's one example of what we do. To what extent can you really drive change in Hong Kong’s capital markets? Do you think there is room for improvement in its regulation? I think that ultimately we will need to see some level of regulatory reform. I think it's very well documented that the general perception from large global equity investors is that it's probably been one of the weaker major markets from a governance perspective — both regarding how it's applied by those vested with the responsibility to administer governance but also in terms of the regulatory protections within the legislation. Did you take a position in Spring REIT, as early as three years ago, because you thought the REIT was mismanaged and therefore there was an opportunity for you to come in and improve things? Or was the position taken on the basis the REIT had growth potential and the mismanagement came about later on? I'll give you an anecdote. We run an alternatives business and we invest our own money, and alongside us, we have some of the world's largest sovereign wealth funds and pension plans. From a governance perspective, we've got a very sophisticated shareholder base. Let's take the Spring REIT example. Spring was proposing to acquire an asset off a party that owns 9.8% of the management vehicle of the REIT. In the institutional world where we operate, this situation is a clear conflict of interest, and we would have to not only disclose this but would also be prevented from voting on approving the acquisition regardless of We thought there was growth potential and at the time we took the view that management would be able to deliver outcomes that were relevant for ourselves and other independent unitholders. Unfortunately, despite providing advice, guidance and views about the company’s direction, they weren't able to respond in a manner that we felt was beneficial for ourselves and other unitholders. The management did not listen to suggestions from ourselves and the market. And as a result of that as well as 7