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CHRISTO WIESE ‘I’ve been very fortunate, I’ve had wonderful colleagues over the past 55 years. It appears that I made one very bad choice and the only excuse I would offer is that I made that choice in the best company: bankers, regulators, analysts, ratings agencies,’ says Wiese. ‘None of them foresaw the problem which as it now appears was there for over a decade. Wrongdoing had been going on, driven essentially by one individual. I also accept: that’s how life works, you don’t always get it right. I’ve had wonderful colleagues who really built the businesses to the point where we were the largest private sector employer in South Africa.’ ‘Obviously one learns a lot of lessons. I think the primary lesson is not to place that much reliance on all those institutions that are out there meant to prevent things like Steinhoff. Starting off with the auditors, but also the financial institutions involved, the regulators and others”. Criticism following Steinhoff ’s spectacular implosion focused in large part on the company’s board and its role in detecting its CEO Markus Jooste’s fraud. Wiese was chairperson of the Steinhoff Supervisory Board for only four board meetings (from May 2016 to December 2017). Wiese hits back: ‘To people who say that the non-executive directorships should have known, I ask: Why did it take PWC with seven partners and a hundred clerks over 14 months to work out what’s going on? Now you expect a non-executive director who meets five times a year, is given a pack of documents signed off by off the internal and external auditors, to pick up that something is going on?’ According to Wiese, the South African business community will ‘for sure’ see another massive scandal like this in the future. ‘Every time one of these frauds happens, people say: How could people not know about it? And yet it happens time and time again.’ As we finished up our interview with Wiese, Steinhoff International still hadn’t posted their much-awaited 2017 results. It would only be released at midnight, before the National Elections commanded the attention of the public. The results showed total assets marked down to €17.5bn in fiscal 2017, compared with a restated €21bn in 2016. The stock has fallen by over 96% since the announcement of accounting irregularities in 2017. Wiese lodged a R59-billion claim against the company in April. It’s been a turbulent two years for the risk-taking businessman. His latest risk didn’t pay off, but according to him, it won’t be his last business deal. ‘I’m going to keep doing what I’ve been doing. The greatest joy for me is that I’ve been building businesses and if it wasn’t for a fraudster, we could’ve employed over 350 000 people.’ Today Shoprite employs 145 000 people and Pepkor close to 50 000. tv Don’t miss the exclusive interview with Christo Wiese on REItv. Visit REItv for more insider real estate investment insights SA Real Estate Investor Magazine JUNE/JULY 2019 13