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CONVERSATIONS WITH SIMON SINEK B Y M A E M A Ñ AC A P - J O H N S O N Do you know how to inspire people to follow you? Following his best-selling book entitled Start with Why, SIMON SINEK explores the variables that create a strongly SEE SINEK’ S VIDEO Click here. bonded team. In his latest book, Leaders Eat Last, he draws on powerful stories of the Marines Corps whose culture is rooted on deep respect for leadership as well as mutual concern and support for each other. PULSE: What inspired your latest book Leaders Eat Last? Sinek: The title comes from a conversation with Lieutenant General George Flynn of the United States Marine Corps, who also wrote the foreword of the book. While I was doing research for it, I had the chance to meet and ask him: “What makes the Marines so good at what they do?” In response, he said, “Officers eat last.” If you go to any Marine Corps’ chow hall, you will see the Marines line up in order of their rank: Juniors eat first while the most seniors eat last. It’s not in any rule book and no one tells them they have to, they do it because of the way in which they view leadership. They view leadership as a responsibility, not simply as a rank. This is, I think, one of the greatest examples of leadership. P: What drives us to become leaders? S: There’s a system of incentives in our bodies that helps us do things that are in our best interest as human beings. For example, we are incentivized to go looking for food because we enjoy food, more than simply to satisfy our hunger. It’s like being a parent, right? It’s the wrong question to ask: “Do you want to have kids?” The question is: “Do you want to 24 PULSE n June 2015 raise kids? Do you want to be a parent?” It’s a lifestyle decision to be a parent. Leadership is the same thing. It’s not the kind of thing you turn on and off. You either elect to do it or you don’t. When we are at our best, when we put the lives of others before us, we become leaders. The amazing thing is that great leaders actually create environments in which they produce more leaders. In other words, in a great organization that is well-led, you’ll find a general culture in which everyone looks after each other. P: How can leaders create an environment that allows team members’ leadership potential to shine? S: Leadership comes with risks. You take the risk to trust others, sometimes before they’ve done anything. To say, “I’m going to wait and see how they act before I’m going to trust them” is not leadership. Leadership is saying, “People deserve to be trusted, so I’m going to trust them.” Leadership also requires making the hard decisions. Do we sacrifice the people to save the numbers, or do we sacrifice the numbers to save the people? A true leader will always sacrifice the numbers to save the people.