MADE Magazine Spring 2019 May 2019 | Page 61

MADEFEATURE MADEXXX be private. of our height and the perception that the husband should be taller than the woman. Allison Kugel: But you are enjoying having audiences get to know the part of you that shines as Constance on Bless This Mess. Pam Grier: I'm sharing my rural side, my military side, my pragmatic side and my sexy side in this wonderful role that has been bestowed upon me by actress and co-creator Lake Bell and [co-creator] Elizabeth Meriwether; and ABC and Fox and Disney. They support me greatly, they listen to me, and they laugh at some of the funny things I do. Even the way I came into my initial meeting with them, all stinky from doing chores. Who does that? Allison Kugel: That's not so much meth- od acting as it is the real Pam Grier! You're a roll up your sleeves and get your hands dirty kind of woman. Pam Grier: That's right. For fifty years of my career, I would commute. I would come off the plane ready to work, in character, and I was very serious about my work. I couldn't do all the roles because I'm tall. For example, I couldn't play Tina Turner, because I was 5'9" and she's 5'1". I'm not going to get roles where the characters are diminutive. I was always asked why I didn't play Tina Turner. I'm actually, like, a foot taller than Tina. I'd be the tallest Tina Turner in the world. Like Geena Davis and a lot of my peers who are tall, we don't get a lot of the roles with husbands and love stories, because Allison Kugel: This interview reminds me of how film directors will say that sometimes they'll have an actor on set, and they know the best thing they can do is get out of their way and just let them do their thing. With this interview, I couldn't direct you. You directed the interview, but I learned a whole lot and I thank you! Pam Grier: Well, I love to share and I love to teach. I've got a PhD. from the University of Maryland in the Human- ities, and an honorary degree in Science from Langston University in Agriculture. It's who I am. Watch "Bless This Mess," starring Lake Bell, Dax Shepard, Pam Grier and Ed Begley Jr. on ABC, Tuesdays at 9:30/8:30c. Pam will also star in "Poms" with Diane Keaton and Rhea Perlman, in theatres Friday, May 10th. Follow her on Twitter @PamGrier Contribute to MADE Share your story with us that may help millennials of color navigate their professional + personal lives. VISIT made-magazine.com/ submission to contribute your story. #mademaven 61