LA CIVETTA March 2014 | Page 21

sometimes can't see beyond that. The fan mentality is something I'm very interested in, to understand it from the inside and the outside.

Moving briefly onto current affairs In Italy at the moment, a poll published in the Italian Corriere della Sera on Monday showed that 52% of Italians believe that a Renzi government can push through the reforms that the country needs. How do you see Italy's future now that Matteo Renzi has been elected as prime minister?

I think it's going to be very difficult for him because he doesn't really have a clear majority. He needs to, very quickly, do two or three things, and then he needs to get through elections. Whether he can actually do those things (such as change the electoral system) is going to be difficult. I think it's a very dangerous game he's playing and he can easily get caught up in the miasma of Rome and politics.

He's a very interesting character, I think. He is, in some ways, the Italian Blair; in some ways he's not that at all. A lot of people don't really understand him. He has this great advantage of being a very young prime minister: just 39. So it's going to be interesting. I think he has a very brief window and then we'll see what happens. But according to people I know who are opinion pollsters, if the elections were held tomorrow he would win be miles. But that support could easily slip away.

Before Monday's decision, there was speculation that Berlusconi would return to the political front. Do you see Berlusconi returning to the scene in the future?

He hasn't really left. He was expelled from parliament because of his conviction of tax fraud, he's got various other trials, but he hasn't left the political scene. He's still leader of the coalition, he went to meet Napolitano [Giorgio Napolitano is the Italian president]. So he's still there and he's still a very powerful figure, not just because there will be people to vote for him whatever, but also because he has media power as we all know. I think he will still be around, it's an end-game that's very long - he's now seventy-seven. He's got conviction, it's a very long end-game of his exit. The number of times he's been written off and come back - tens of times! So we should never write him off. Every time you hope in many ways, and I'll put my cards on the table. I'm not exactly a fan of his. His name can't be on the ballot paper, he can't stand, but, it will be him, people will be voting for or against him.