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M.M. Are we more selfish when money is involved? G.C. I want to get the words straight and correct you a little bit in terms of language. In economics, selfishness and altruism are very precise concepts, so I prefer not to use those types of words, though in com- mon language you can use them. Basically individuals tend to be cooperative with others, that is, they tend to sustain personal costs to help others when money is not involved, and as soon as money gets involved, this tendency to try to cooperate with others, over time, is greatly diminished. So if you want to call it selfishness you can think of it in that way it’s more self-interested. M.M. It’s very interesting what you’re saying because in Spain (where I come from), people are suffering a very big economic recession at the moment, but at the same time there is much growth of solidarity. Do you think that can be related to your theory? G.C. Definitely. The point here, and the precedence here, is that we did a laboratory experiment, so all you can get out of the data is some intuition for how behavior might be rep- licated outside the lab so it gives us a point, a way to think about behaviors in society, but you’re right. So what we found in the experiment is that people were able successfully, to a certain 32 extent, but not fully to a certain extent they were successful, at dispelling social norms of mutual support, cooperation, as you say, or reciprocity, in a certain sense, when there was no way