thing now , he ’ d probably do it with those guys . IE : But how did this project occur to you ? You ’ ve said it was piecemeal , over ten years ? TS : Yeah . Chip and I have been writing for 14 years now , and I was touring with him just doing solo gigs , and this , that , and the other thing , just trying to keep busy and just for fun , but after a while we just decided to give it a name . And Chip came up with it , and we made
these watercolor paintings that were funny and sort of solidified the concept . So from that moment on , we were gonna be Cowboys in the Campfire , and between his schedule and my schedule and stuff like that , we kind of threw a record together . And here we are now , all these years later , with our own record , tour , and everything else .
IE : Obviously , you hang with Paul Westerberg , and you know which way that collaboration is going to go . But what did you imagine for this ? TS : You know , it ’ s fun , it ’ s really , really low maintenance , it ’ s hanging out with my bud . So I can do it on my own terms , which is really the great thing behind it . I can go out and play as little or much as I want , really , in the fashion that works for me , and still take care of my kid and my responsibilities . So it works out good for me , and it ’ s fun because we always get to play some really wacky places . And Lulu can go stay with her mom now when I split , so things have kind
of changed up so that works out well now .
IE : You helped out Lucinda Williams on her new album . Are you available on call as a lastminute fixer-upper for artists ’ recording sessions ? TS : Yeah . If I get the call in good enough time ahead , I can usually plan for something like that . And I have done them , have gone on the fly and
done certain things . So at the moment , I ’ m in a good spot for that kind of thing . And they all come with a certain amount of mystery and risk because I never know anything about what I ’ m getting myself into . So it ’ s always interesting but somewhat haphazard going in , you know ? And Guns was one of those things where it sounded like a great idea , and I was really into where Axl was coming from , kind of an all-for-one , one-forall kind of vibe on that . And I kind of do that with everything – if it sounds good , I don ’ t worry about results or what I ’ m gonna get out of it , or what it ’ s gonna do for me . I usually just kind of go with my guts on it , and most everything I ’ ve done , one way or another , has kind of turned out okay . So there was nothing I ’ ve ever had to really walk away from , per se . IE : What was the most challenging ? TS : Well , it ’ s hard to say . It ’ s all been a bit of a challenge . Finishing this record “ Wronger ” was a challenge , because we had Covid in the middle of that , and I had to walk away from a record
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